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Food additives and ADHD? The best documented resource I've found about food additives and ADHD is a paperback book called the How To Cure Hyperactivity book (1981) by C. Thomas Wild with Anita Uhl Brothers, M.D. It reports an extreme chemical sensitivity to the FD&C Yellow Food Color No. 5 (tartrazine) at the surprising level of only 1/10 of 1 mg. That's the very lowest reported sensitivity that I can find which is well-documented. The book also addresses such other food additives such as the artificial sweetener, sodium saccharin, and the world's most common mild stimulant, weak caffeine. C. Thomas Wild says that caffeine works for him better than Ritalin. Who else responds positively to coffee - caffeine? >
pebbles_red66 replied: "I have ADHD and get no effect from caffeine... absolutely nothing. I could eat a lb of chocolate, and drink a 6-pack of Jolt, and feel nothing. Adderall worked for me... for the most part."

aera replied: "Best is to avoid sugur, flour, and most starches."

The How To Cure Hyperactivity book about ADHD and hidden food additives? The How to Cure Hyperactivity book about ADHD by C. Thomas Wild with Anita Uhl Brothers, M.D. reports the lowest known sensitivity to a hidden food additive reported: .1 of 1 mg for the FD&C Yellow Food Color No. 5 (Tartrazine). Why were there a number of theories that it took much larger amounts to trigger a reaction in a few persons? The 1981 book also reported that coffee - caffeine compounds - can also work for a very small group of those with ADHD (not everyone) and work better, for them, than stronger stimulants - alerting agents - such as Ritalin, Dexedrine, and Adderall.

LJ K replied: "Doctors, and scientists, aren't always working in synchronization. In fact, it's rare that they do. They work on their hypotheses, perhaps with partners and help (they need facilities, money and subjects, after all), but besides publishing work in trade papers, their work isn't usually seen by the public at all, and often not by each other. I just read a long article in the New Yorker magazine about a woman who decided that a certain form of deadly cancer can be better treated if the hospitals and doctors who try to treat it worked in a situation that followed more of a business model. She was a great fundraiser, and as she approached more and more hospitals with her ideas, she ultimately has founded a ...well, a foundation which has brought together some of the best hospitals and research centers in the U.S. to work on this cancer. (Through donations by her foundation for this work to be done.) She also has an accountability type of thing in place in that these hospitals who receive money from her foundation must show and share what they learn during certain time periods. It was good reading... Let's see, today is 2.17... that NYer was out maybe a month ago. Hope something like this happens with ADHD."

abbbijo replied: "How is a person with ADHD expected to read a book like that? The problem is that we don't give these people a chance to help themselves. The simple fact that someone wrote a book about it, when they know that they can't focus on things, is proof that noone really wants to help them."

If you eliminate certain foods from a ADHD child's diet what can they eat? My six year old daughter has ADHD. I thought of eliminating milk, wheat, preservatives/additives, dyes, sugars, and caffeine from her diet to see if the symptoms go away. But I am not sure what to feed her except fruits and vegetables which I know she won't eat. She is on medication but it is having side effects and I am not sure to continue the medication but that is up to the doctor. Any suggestions?

Mommy of 2 replied: "Try to go organic."

Melinda F replied: "To make it easier on you and your daughter try eliminating the foods one or two at a time. Caffeine would be the easiest. And then wheat, substitution for that would be rice, potato, barley, oat. Milk would be the next one I would try to mess with, substitute with Soy milk (its an aquired taste). The preservatives/additives, dyes, and sugars would require much more research since you would need to know exactly which preservatives/additives, dyes, and sugars to try to eliminate. Food allergy websites, celiac sprue disease websites would be places where you could get more ideas as to what she could eat"

agoosa replied: "One thing you can do is keep a food journal. Write down everything your child eats and how your child behaves that day. My son was NOT allergic, but INTOLERANT to dairy, eggs, raw pineapple, cashews, apples, dyes, sulftites and phosphates. If he ate those, he would act just like a child with ADHD and would have been diagnosed with that. The doctors just would not listen to me.. so I kept the food journal and was able to figure out what was causing his misbehavior, his crying, etc. Once these were taken out of his diet, he was completely wonderful. :) Hope this helps! Here is an elimination diet - you can also look at this site for food journal info: "

Can eating habits affect ADHD symptoms? I've heard that eating high sugar foods or ingesting large amounts of stimulants (caffeine, nicotine, etc) can worsen symptoms of ADHD. Is this true? Does the theory have any grounding in scientific research?

Dave replied: "Yes they can and the scientific basis on it is simply that stimulants like caffeine and nicotine are just that: stimulants. They increase energy and blood flow, which would exacerbate the HYPERACTIVE portion of the ADHD quite easily."

thegreatone replied: "They say it does, but I don't believe it."

ripriles replied: "The food you eat has a big affect on the chemicals in your brain. In ADHD there are certain chemicals lacking and certain foods destroy these same chemicals. This is why some foods make normal kids appear to have ADHD because they temporarily reduce the same chemicals that are missing in an ADHD brain. So with someone who already has ADHD eating these foods can make the disorder much, much worse. Any good treatment plan for ADHD must include a restrictive diet."

Twin girls Two years old ADHD any diet suggestions? I was put on numerous medications while i was pregnant and theyre father is also an identical twin who also has severe ADHD. I am looking for a non medicinal way to help this problem. I am not looking to cure it just make it tolerable for them to live. I have cut out the redy dyes and the caffeine and most processed sugar excluding the occasional treat. Some times They have good days and other times they have bad days. Please tell me someone has a suggestion to keep them occupied or any foods im over looking.

ecstatic:) replied: "im sorry, i dont have an answer but i was wondering how in the world do they diagnose a 2 year old with ADHD?"

rachel j replied: "you are on the right track with no foods with dyes,processed sugar and caffeine. Another thing that worked for me is nothing artificial or processed. Occasionally its OK because we live in the real world but try to cut as much out as possible. Lunch meat,mac and cheese in box,spaghetti,anything that has 2 or more chemical ingredients is generally bad. Also fruits and veggies that are not organic. WE don't know whats in those pesticides they spray on our food."

MomuttsMom replied: "All two year olds have ADHD. I don't know one single two year old that will sit still for any given amount of time unless they are glued to a television. There is no accurate way to diagnose ADHD until a child reaches school age. It is the MOST overly misdiagnosed disorder. Only 10% of children diagnosed at age 3 actually have the disorder. You need to read this article. "

Kathryn R replied: "As the parent of three children 32, 28 and 15 also the sister of three brother's with ADHD I would wonder who diagnosed them at this early an age????? At this age they are supposed to be active and barley sit still!!!!! I would hope that you haven't self diagnosed them???? Have you taken them to a nureo-psychologist or psychiatrist???? Until than don't assume that you know what's going on. Even though Three of my brothers have it only one of their children has it. And I think that was because of her parents drug use while pregnant with her. Don't label your children this early, I know that early intervention is important, but make sure that you know what you're dealing with. I have a learning disability as do all of my daughters. And more than 15 members of my familiy."

G replied: "My son was diagnosed with ADHD at age 4. Instead of medicated him, I took the time to pay attention to what he ate. Different children react differently to foods. Pay attention to the cause and effect of the food, drink, and activities your girls are consuming. When do they appear "hyper"? After which foods or drinks? Do they get appropriate execise? It will take alot of work but it was worth it to me. My son is 7 and I don't even tell people that he was even diagnosed....except for you. lol"

This Space For Rent replied: "There is no way to know that your 2-year-old girls are ADHD. There's no way to separate natural rambunctiousness from hyperactivity. Lots of kids are bouncing off the walls at 2 and that's normal. It's great that you want a natural, low sugar diet for your kids, but try not to label them already. If they have attention problems it will become apparent in school. Try limiting their television to a half hour a day and get them outside, engage them in a lot of physical activity to burn off the energy."

Vanessa (BSL bull sh*t law) replied: "Actually caffeine has an opposite effect with people that are ADHD as do medications such as benedryl that would knock most people out make them more hyper! The caffeine wakes us up but calms ADHD people down...I worked for a pediatrician for 2 yrs and we saw dozens of kids that were ADHD and he recommended mountain dew in the morning 8oz here is a site we would always tell moms to check out. And have they actually been diagnosed with it? Doctors arent able to diagnose them until they are at least 5 and most wait until 6 so they can get feedback from a teacher as well. GOOD LUCK!"

Sylke replied: "Lots of essential fatty acids, like fish and nuts and seeds. This will do no harm, even if I think two is to early to really tell about ADHD."

Does caffeine give an opposite effect with kids who have ADHD? My son just turned four, he's been having a lot of problems in daycare and we spoke with a psychiatrist about it and because of his age they discourage medication unless its severe. In the meantime we have him seeing a behavioral therapist to help him. I heard today that if i give him caffeine that it will give the opposite effect then it would other kids-meaning it would calm him down instead of get him all hyped up. Is this true? Also I've heard about certain foods also helping him, can someone give me some ideas on what foods will help him. Serious people with mature answers only please.

Sean replied: "I wish I had research readily available to back this up, but I don't. I can speak from experience: I grew up ADHD, and caffeine would always settle and focus me on the task at hand. Even today, coffee calms me rather than wires me."

Ronn replied: "i don't know about ADHD. but i drank coffe before but when the effect came . I TELL YOU TO STAY AWAY! (i almost burned the dog) lol"

Audri replied: "It does with some children. My mom used to pour like a quarter to a half a cup full of coffee and fill the rest with milk. It helped me. Also, fish is supposed to help, because of the omega 3's, but there are plant sources as well. Some kids have a sensitivity to a certain food (like mike or gluten or really processed foods) that can cause chemical imbalances without a full blown allergic reaction. Try things out and observe. Really its trial and error at his age."

Daisy Sue Maire replied: "It depends, caffeine can probably calm him down because he is so hyperactive already, I do not think it will hurt. I know people that caffeine does in fact calm them down and they have ADHD. If I were you, I would try it. Foods that I know of that may help would be foods with natural sugars like fruits and foods with omega 3 fatty acids like fish, they could possible help him calm down. I would not try both at the same time, but I suggest try the caffeine and see if it helps any, it may not work right away, but if you try for about a week you should see some change, whether good or bad."

Snowcrane66 replied: "My son is just about one year older than yours and from what I observation to boys among our daily life, it is pretty normal and common for any boy very active at this age with lots of different symptoms of problem, not just only your son. Pls, do not put any ADHD tag on him though he has some symptoms of that, but hey it is normal, so as my son. And I can tell you that I rarely buy any junk food or snake or artificial drink to my kids, but they are still very energetic at this age which I think it would be pretty common and normal to any boy at this age. I know what you felt and I have the same feelings as yours which upset me everyday when I confront with his problem. But hey, look around some other kids also just like that and like to be bully the younger one, or shouting, talking louds and running around and play rough at this age, emotionally diablitity to control themselves at this age. Pls, do not feed them any stuffs that harm for their precious and purely body which it is your responsiblity to keep their health clean and right. Do not feed them any medicine or the other althernitive stimulus stuffs instead try to think the other way to alther their behavior by the way of constructive method rather counting on drug. I ever saw a young man who got kidney failure because of taking a lot of ADHD drug- I remembered it is lithium stuff. Yeah, he was kind slow and not very energetiv from the way he talked at his age, but he lost his precious kidney which put his life in danger. I saw his mum with a sorrow face. So why not put him to learn some static activity such as learning play paino, or teaching him sit down to learn number or alphabates , or put him to learn to swim or buying a bike and bring him to a park to let him to expense the extra energy out. I am pretty sure that your son also will learn very quick and pick up everything very quick if you train him to calm down himself to sit down and teach him. YOu will see the future genius if you keep on your goal rather aiming to force him to see shrink or pouring tons of medicine. I never saw my son smiles and so happy when we put him to swimg class. He is happy and so am I. That is what I do now... and I know he still will running around and doing something bad after reading or studying... but he is just kid. As long as he can sit down and pay attention what you teach, then the next step you wouldn't feeling so trouble at all once he enter the prep school. Cuz he can sit down and listening what teacher said and learn at that time. That is the main important thing what I care. Yeah, he shouts, jumps and runs around the house, we need time to train him so as he.... The target age to correct all of this annoying behavior is 10 yrs old. I know that is long, but at least it is more healthier way for him and us to see what it will be. It is kind hard to be a mum nowaday, yes it is but I would say I am still learning how to be a nice mum and to learn how to teach my kid right."

Holistic Diet tips for child with ADHD? Son diagnosed with ADHD in the 1st grade.Since then we have been treating him with stimulants.They caused a slight improvement in the amount of time a teacher had to spend on him talking out or being restless in his seat. HOWEVER, every single one of these meds made my son more aggitated and aggressive,even violent. He went to counseling for a whole year for anger management until I realized the meds were making him so angry! In the summer we always take him off the medicines and we enjoy being around him. He is easy to get along with. He rarely gets upset enough to shout let alone become physical. He does have trouble being still, quiet and w/ self control. I have decided to take a holistic aproach. I enrolled him in a school that fits his needs. I researched and I know the food guidelines. I need ideas on how to make the foods he can have yummy to him and not like a punishment. no sugar, caffeine, chocolate, etc. Include fun ways to make, present, and enjoy these foods. Thanks. I can look up recipes all day. I want tried and true ideas from real parents or others who have had to prepare these foods.

iamhuntersmommy replied: "i bet theres a hole menu out there on the net for this sort of thing I will take a look and see what i can find......brb if i find anything heres a little info..... heres a litlte more info heres a online gourp that might help you"

Nova replied: "I heard that taking out all wheat products and cutting down on lactose (dairy) helped a lot with some kids with ADHD. Also, some medications can have a lactose-based coating that can cause irritation. Fruits are sweet and healthy, best of both worlds-try making a funny face out of fruits and veggies on a plate and serve it like that, funa nd healthy. Either way, Good luck!"

rorybuns replied: "Read the book Your Miracle Brain. Here are food suggestions based on this book. 1. Make fruits and vegetables the major part of your diet 2. Eat poultry without skin, or very lean meats and game 3. Eat legumes of all kinds, including peanuts, preferably unsalted 4. Eat nuts, notably walnuts and almonds 5. Eat fatty fish such as mackeral, herring, sardines, salmon without added vegetable oils 6. Restrict Omega-6 fats(especially corn oil), hydrogenated vegetable oils, trans fatty acids; consume only high quality Olive Oil 7. Restrict sugar and sodium 8. Restrict processed foods 9. Take vitamin-mineral supplements, w/o this you won't get enough of everything. It's just impossible nowadays. 10. Take fish oil capsules if you do not eat fish several times a week (EFA's have been proven extremely helpful for kids w/ ADD and depression)"

Jewel D replied: "Omega Oils - found in fatty fish such as Salmon. Get them in capsule form from your pharmacy. Vitamin B supplement - very important for calming nerves. Stay away from all artificially flavoured medication, foods and cool drinks. Promote healthy eating by offering fruit and veggies cut into interesting kiddy shapes. Ensure lots of activity. Enrol in every activity they'd like to ensure that they work out all their nervous tension and fall asleep like lambs at night."

ADHD in kids question? my 9 yr old boy has adhd, and is having a hard time in school, at the moment he is not on meds because he took meds different types and they just didnt work so i decided to stop the meds because i am scared about the effects these meds have and i never wanted to give him meds in the first place but his pediatrician recomended it, since first grade he took meds know in 5th grade not giving him any meds. in school he does hardly any thing all day in class he is only interested and looking forward to recess, he has a hard time completing class assignments, every day i help him with his home work, every friday the teacher sends a progress report each wk to see how kids are doing in class, well turns out that my son hasnt turned in 4 out of 5 assignmets so i went and talked to the teacher she says he didnt turn it in and he says in front of her that he did i told her i help him with his homework every day so where is the home work?any way, when he does well in school i do reward him sometimes i buy him a toy he really likes and sometimes i just let him stay up 30min longer b4 bed time and if he is super good he get s a bigger reward like he was good for 2 wks and he wanted an electric guitar and we got it for him but he hasnt been doing very well since he started 5th grade, I need help, ive looked into some web sites but no luck really, i need some info on how to help him concentrate foucus, complete assignments ect. so he can start doing more in class, thats about the only problem he has with adhd because he is a good kid a kid with good feelings and he hasnt lost his manners yet, also i want to know what foods not to give him i know that sugars caffeine process foods but i read also in a book not to give him foods with red dye what is that? is it like bologna or what? also if there are any herbal remedies that any one out there knows about let me know. THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH. any info is greatly appreciated, thanx again. oh and his teacher is pushing me to give him meds again. :(

Mordi replied: "So let me get this strait .. you did not follow a trained doctors advice and now you dont know what to do because he does no do well in school. This is sad.. put your kid back on the meds.. he obviously needs to get through school. He can stop them on his own later on in life."

teejay replied: "In treating problems of development of child, you must have patience, AdHd treatment does take time. Along with medications behaviourr therapy is also required which you are doing fine [reward strategy] Just have patience and have faith in God and the Doc. Doctor knows which medications work how.. so he can always change it if not effective. And I went thru the info about the medicines used in the treatment of ADHD, they do not have the adverse effects of an extent you speculate. in fact they have minimal or none. instead if you do not treat this problem of ur kid in time by avoiding medications u will tend make him loose his important educational years. I guess it would be wise not to trust alternative herbs etc at this point of time bcoz ur objective is turn to a trusted treatment method which is obviously Medical science it contains traditional and deep study of this problem. and Teacher has no right to decide whether ur kid should takemeds or not. Its ur decision and the doc is an expert for the advice and no one else. he wud always suggest something in interest of ur son."

kat4kimi replied: "Ok, first of all DO NOT let the teacher dictate to you whether or not you should medicate you child. It sounds like you aren't so kudos to you. Second, I recently read an article in the medical journal. It claimed that children with ADD have a hard time sleeping at night. It said that they snore a lot and they toss and turn quite a bit. Does your child do that? If so, the remedy they suggested is to have your child tested to see if he need an oxygen mask like some of the adults use for sleep apnea & that the reson for ADD is because the child is not getting enough air during sleep. So they do not reach REM sleep which in turn causes the ADD. Try to have your child tested if this is the case. If not Concerta might be a good option for you. I am not a doctor and am not giving you medical advice but I am a Pharmacy Tech and am just giving you my opinion. Concerta is an ADHD med that is time release and it won't AMP your child up the way the immediate release medications like Adderral and Ritalin will. I hope this helps. Please feel free to email me if you have any other questions. My mother has her Doctorte in Pharmacy and I would be more than happy to ask her for her input on the matter if you would like. Good luck to you!! Kat"

Single mother of 3 replied: "My 8yr old daughter has ADHD and she start some meds that are new and they are working great if you are interested in possible putting your son back on meds talk to your sons doctor about Vyvanse. It is a once a day pill that lasts all day and it is working great for my daughter. She can focus, concentrate and do her homework at home and school, the start of this school year started ot alot better than the start of school last year. I hope that this helps you"

WealthManagement81 replied: "Of course the teacher is pushing for meds; that's because it makes her job easier. If she was really concerned for this child, she would be recommending ways to help; extra tutoring, different teaching styles, meetings with specialists at the school, etc.... First of all, get him into at least one physical after-school activity, such as Tae Kwon Do. This is great because it not only is an energy release for him, but it also teaches discipline on how to handle your body the proper way and teaches focusing! Second, diet helps...you should check with a specialist to see what he/she reccomends for his specific needs. Third, get into a good sleep routine. It's totally possible he could benefit from more good quality sleep. Fourth, try getting him a tutor at least once a week. Tutors help kids learn how to effectively deal with their "ADHD" and manage it in a way that will keep them on track. For example, my little girl sometimes sucks on a tic-tac to help her focus at times she is really struggeling. Consistancy and routine will help with the missing homework..Perhaps he just needs a seperate routine from the rest of the class where he turns in his assignments first thing in the morning to the teacher. I know this can be a struggle and at times a huge battle, but consistancy and organization are key if he is to ever manage this. Most kids, esspecially boys are extremely active and have low attention span. He may need to be taught using more hands-on methods or what have you, to cater to his learning style. If he gets behind, even a little, it is going to be even more of a struggle; that's why I recomend a tutor. I do not reccomend buying him gifts as an incentive to do well; once in a while is fine, but when it comes to doing well in school, you should do more fun activities or something that will last longer than the instant thrill of a new guitar. Kids who are encouraged and told how proud you are, build up a better self-esteem and feel a sense of accomplishement for their efforts instead of just doing something for a toy. Good luck, I really hope you would only medicate as a last resort. And don't feel bad if you do; all the meds do is block out a lot of stimulus from the brain, making the concentration process easier. (sorry about my spelling! i am too lazy to spell check =] )"

whiteshugga replied: "Youre screwed. Your son will do better in school if you put him on speed. Wouldnt you? But a growing boy should not be given speed. Nobody really should. Adderall feels almost exactly the same as cocaine to me. Theyre great together. Try it sometime. I was just like your son here. I thought my teachers were stupid and school was useless. The problem is that I was right. Unfortunately for me, stupid and useless things like school get you into colleges and good jobs. Oh well. I was in the gifted class at school. I never really learned to sit still and pay attention, and in retrospect nobody could have taught me to. I B.S.ed my way to a degree in economics after six years. I still hate my job with white knuckled rage. In reality, ADD kids usually end up in some form of blue collar job. I am considering quitting mine to be poor as a park ranger. My family wonders why I have not been very successful at anything but sports and they think I am lazy and just dont care. The truth is i just cant do it. There are a million and one books about how to succeed with ADD/ADHD. All rubbish. They say i should carry around a blackberry or adress book and write everything down. I would if i didnt know beforehand that i will lose the book in five minutes. The good news is that if this is temporary or he is a late bloomer we are unnecessarily worrying. And the rest of the good news is that life as an active, creative person isnt so bad. I know plenty of good natured guys who did not do well in school but figured it out later in life. I also know plenty that showed promise and ended up in jail. Most of my bright but rowdy friends from leafy suburbia ended up in jail or rehab. I was lucky because my parents loved me and i had the sense to stop. And I was a really good drug dealer. Other responders to this question have suggested concerta and vyvanse and claimed they will not make your child wired. They will. They are amphetamines too. My response has gotten thumbs down from the teachers and mothers who have responded. Respectfully, I know much more than they do. I have been on every treatment, seen every psychologist, tried every scheme and discussed it with many, many others. I am an expert and they are not. I can tell you the half-lives of every medication and recite income and academic statistics for people diagnosed with ADD. Diet will make some difference. Whole foods are they way to go here. ADD kids tend also to have food allergies. But whole foods and avoiding the worst prepackaged foods is good for everyone. As an athlete I felt a significant mental but more significant physical benefit to eating better. Fish oil capsules help. Surveys show they provide a noticeable difference to most people. They kill pain almost as well as 400 mg of ibuprofen. Almost all doctors recommend them. if i take them before a big, fatty meal I do not feel as dumb and lazy afterwards. ADD drugs will stunt your childs growth. They cause wounds to heal slowly, too. They prevent restful sleep. They will increase your childs blood pressure. In other words, they put your child in a nervous fight or flight sort of state. This helps some kids focus and increases the activity level of all of them. It is also not good for emotional growth to grow up drugged. I just don't have that many solutions for you. Middle school guidance counselors and psychologists are bottom of the barrel hacks. I have never met a stable one. Do not listen to them. School these days is more detail oriented and clerical than ever. This is why girls do better than boys. The textbooks are filled with lies. Have you tried to read one? They are awful. I read serious, heavy books but my eyes glaze over at this stuff. This isnt the right thing to say, but i almost think we should be alarmed if any kid actually does well at this silliness. I have said all this assuming he has ADD but can understand the work. Could it be that he has another learning disability or he just isnt very good at academics and is frustrated? Could the problem be to some extent emotional or behavioral? I wish you the best."

Scullycj replied: "Ok Here is what you do, Sit down with the teacher, and the person in charge of Special Ed. and ask them for recommendations, Possibly the public school is not appropriate for him. Leagly the school has to accommodating him Meds do not work! The school always pushes to drug the kids"

Bob T replied: "Don't give him cola soda. Try half the dose of medication."

John M replied: "I would suggest seeking professional advice, luckily you can get some on October 7th in a free Webinar on this topic."

What are some causes of ADHD behaviors that are not actually ADHD? We are trying to determine the cause of my nephew's ADHD type behaviors. He has difficulty focusing, can't seem to sit still, and has been having more dificulty in following directions than a 3 year old should have. I highly doubt that he actually has ADHD because this behavior only started a few months ago. Yes, it could be a late onset of the terrible two's, but we don't want to ignore the problem if there is an actual cause. He used to have an issue with temper tantrums when he was on milk. We took him off milk and gave him soy products and the tempertantrums went away. About 6 months ago we switched back to milk products with no change in behavior. About 2 months ago, these ADHD behaviors started. Now the obvious solution is to go back to soy, but with 4 months of no behavioral issues, I'm not sure that will help. I gets almost no sugar(can't remove the sugar from the premade foods), and no caffeine. Are there any other dietary causes of these behaviors? We will be looking at environmental factors at the end of the summer after he has spent several months out of daycare. We suspect that they are encouraging some of these behaviors because they think it's cute. Let me be a little more clear. He does not have ADHD, he is just exhibiting some of those behaviors and only for the last 2 months. Something has changed and that is what we are trying to determine. When I say that he is not able to focus on a task for a specified period of time, I mean that tasks he used to do easily such as playing a game or coloring. Now he is easily distracted and doesn't want to finish the game. Again, this is a change that occured within the past 2 months. I can tell you that lack of dicipline at home is not the problem. Perhaps that is the case at daycare, which is why he has been pulled out of daycare. As I said earlier, it could simply be late onset of the terrible twos which he really didn't have an issue with when he was two. I am simply looking for some other ideas on the possible cause of this abrupt change in behavior. There have been no environmental changes in the past few months that could explain it.

Doug S replied: "Children in general are ADHD...they are always looking, learning, seeing, new things, and asking questions...My kid was diagnosed as ADHD because could read in kindergarten. He was bored because he had read the books the teacher was reading to the class. To think that kids are ADHD simply because they can't focus on a single task for a time period defined by adults is ridiculous. Adults who are always learning and quesioning are also ADHD! If you are not a "dumbot"...one that falls in line with the latest advertising and gimmicks then you are ADHD. Adults expect children to adhere to a schedule....the ADULT'S schedule. Give your kid a break. Letting my kid spend an hour a week in Walmart looking at toys while I am bored out of my mind, reminds me that a kid spends his day on the adult's schedule...bored out of his/her mind. In your case, it sounds like an attention getting scheme. My child used food to get attention from his mother...and still does...He is a completely different child at school and with me and his sister. Give the kid some personal time just like he/she was an adult. NOBODY at any age likes to be ignored. There are too many excuses for ADHD and not enough "the parents don't spend any time with the kid letting the KID DO what the KID WANTS to do" like looking for the perfect Christma trees for an hour in the cold."

squeaker replied: "honestly they are just 3 yr old typical behaviour he needs discipline for this if he is getting proper discipline and the issues persist until kindergarten then i would get him checked for ADHD have you thought about getting him into preschool this fall instead of daycare get him screened through your public school and they will tell you if the issues are normal or not and if not then what they are signs of and how they can help and where you can get help he IS old enough for preschool at 3 and i highly suggest that instead of daycare the obvious solution is not soy it's discipline and stop with the no sugar thing he will get candy at some point whether you like it or not and then he will be incredibly hyper and may get sick where as if you allow him a little sugar everyday (deal with the hyperness for now by taking him to a park after you've given him sugar) this will not happen as often personally my daughter gets a little sugar everyday and is allowed to drink non caffinated soda she's almost 4 and has an amazing sugar tolerance and does not get hyper at all from candy kids get hyper from sugar because their parents dont let them have it so their body is not used to it there are no dietary causes for behaviors there is lack of discipline or lack of activity take him to the park or to playgroups something where he can socialize other than daycare and get him into school this fall oh yeah ADHD cant/shouldnt be diagnosed until age 5 because before then ADHD behaviours are normal for children also Listen to the lady above me to her ideas are wonderful"

tryoneverything replied: "At 3 yod you probably aren't dealing with ADHD, as you stated. Some little personalities are very flighty and out of it. I do believe strongly that MOST ADHD in all children diagnosed is over diagnosed and that there are other sensitivities and allergies involved (I was a teacher so I observed this alot.) The fact that you've observe the changes after the switch to soy is a HUGE deal for your little guy. And mom and dad are going to have to be on top of all this. I have a very flighty 3 yod that acts alot like he has ADHD. I'll tell you what I have observed about him and see if these things help you. First of all, when he watches TV he goes completely bonkers. I believe there is something in the way the flashes of the screen affects his little mind and he just can't handle the overstimulation. I have 4 other children and none of them are affected by the TV. We have just simply opted not to watch it when he's awake. It leads to more reading anyway which is better for all children. Right now, of course, he's sick with a pretty high fever so he's watched movies all weekend. I am dreading tomorrow. I can already tell he's getting very hyper and having trouble concentrating on things. FOOD is, I believe, the number on culprit in ADHD cases. Watch the diet of most children diagnosed with ADHD and you will see tons of food dyes, lots of high frustoce corn syrup, milk products, and just a ton of junk food. There will be very little fruits, veggies, and whole grain breads. Also, the meat and dairy products they eat are full of hormones and antibiotics. These are all the things my children do no longer eat. When we do go out to eat (which is usually every Sunday for lunch.) If any of my children have ketchup with high fructose corn syrup in it they go off the deep end. I have had many balk at these ideas but I spend 24/7 with my children. I homeschool so I see immediate changes in each child and can usually pinpoint the problem (it's taken me a long time to learn about this.) Our body were not designed to handle the overkill of chemicals and preservative that our foods are laced with in order to make them last longer. Some people don't react to them are badly as others. My 9 yod can handle ore in her diet than the others and always has been. But we stil eat a very natural diet. I had to learn how to do this. I grew up with all the processed foods. I learned how to cook from a box. Now I cook everything from scratch and it's really so much better. My flighty little 3 yod reacts worse at any of these foods and usually becomes truly out of control. I don't deprive my children of candy and such. If they are given candy at church or something, they made trade it for naturally made jelly beans or lollipops. We do make cookies here at home for special treats. . .but we use natural sugars. I just made cinnamon toast for my sick kids and used organic butter, agave nectar (to replace the sugar), and cinnamon. These are my observations. I have also observed with my 3 yod that he needs TONS of structure in his day. In a day you nephew was probably getting that but if you're bringing him home then you need to be aware of that. I don't think it means entertaining him 24/7. But just have a schedule for him to follow in the day. When he has my undivided attention for a period of time and then structured play most of the day, there aren't as many problems. I also make sure that he has a time of day where he has to do "chores". Now most of the time he's following me around the house helping. I use these times to train him in jobs he can do (ie: folding wash clothes.) when he does have 'chores' to occupy to feel important and part of the family he gets bored and then we also have issues with him. If I introduce the environmental factors above (TV and bad food) this schedule becomes very difficult to follow and he becomes very difficult to work with. I don't know if any of this will help you. It at least might get you started in some investigation. You might consider trying to find a pediatrician that allows more natural type ideas (hard to find. It took me almost 7 years to find one) or working with a chiropractor that works with children. They could give you even more guidance. My 7 yod son starts to have behavior problems when he's out of alignment and needs an adjustment with a chiropractor. They are trained to work with children and are very gentle. I even take my infants to see mine after they are born. God Bless. mom of 5 w/ #6 due Nov 08"

Worried Mama replied: "He may simply be getting bored with those activities, or they may be becoming too easy for him, specifically the games. I know that was about the age my little brother lost interest in coloring altogether. He previously loved it, but as he gained a further mastery over his balance and muscle control, it just became too inactive to suit him. Simply put, given the choice, he preferred to get up and play. We both had issues with becoming distracted easily when we were getting bored with something. I think every child does, especially during the toddler years since they have no reason to disguise the fact they're bored like they would in school. Unfortunately between becoming bored with the slow pace set in the early grades, being extremely energetic, and a kinetic learner to boot (a hands on learning style schools are just now starting to get a clue how to work with), my brother's kindergarten teacher got him labeled as ADHD because she wanted him out of her class, so she wouldn't have to deal with him. (With No Child Left Behind, such a thing wouldn't get the child pulled out of class today, but some are still far too quick to want a medicinal cure, which usually does nothing anyway unless it's to make the symptoms far worse.) My parents fell for it at the time because the doctor the school referred them too backed up the teacher. However, medicating him out of his head did absolutely nothing but make his behavior more erratic than ever and plant the idea that he was just plain stupid in his head. He improved dramatically once they got him off the blanikty blank Ritalin. Try incorporating more physical activities and finding games with a slightly higher difficulty level, and don't expect him to keep the same amount of attention on the same activities all the time. Toddlers have their obsessions and preferences just like us adults, but compared to us, toddlers preferences shift at warp speed. Makes sense doesn't it? Everything's new to them still."

aspiegirl replied: "yes food allergies can definately cause hyperactivy also some disorders that are sometimes misdiagnosed as ADHD are childhood bipolar and also asperger's syndrome"

avonmom replied: "try reading the book "the out of sync child". It is all about sensory disfuntion and how it can affect behavior...and be misdiagnosed and misunderstood."

My son and ADHD? So I believe that my son has ADHD. He is 7 yr old, and about to go into the second grade. He was constantly in trouble in the first grade. He almost was expelled for bad behavior. He was suspended form school a total of 10 times. It was seeming like the school was shoving meds down my throat, and that they looked at me like I was a horrible parent because I wanted to explore all other options first. I cut out caffeine, alot of sugary foods, and did my absolute best to work on him and his behavior. Nothing is working. I feel like a failure. It is taking time to get him state medical benefits, and I am desperately trying to get him to be seen by a doc, but I dont make alot of money. Even if I do get him to see a doc, I heard that ADHD meds are extremely expensive, and I doubt I will be able to afford them. I dont know what to do and I am at my wits end. It seems like my son just doesnt have the ability to do some things on his own and I want to help him sooo badly.

Alexa replied: "Well, if health insurance doesn't cover it, buy then generic drug instead (the same drug, just not name brand). I wish the best of luck to you and your son."

cotoncandy replied: "My son has ADHD. The meds for this are really expensive. And most of them don't have a generic depending on what kind you get. Mine cost $130 a month. I have my son on a low dosage because, as you are, I'm concerned with the long term effects. Try some of these tips that the doctor told me. If your son truly has ADHD, caffeine will help. Try giving him a cup of coffee in the morning and see if this calms him down. Keep him off the sugar, because sugar doesn't help, just the caffeine. My doctor suggested coffee in the morning, and for him to take something like Mountain Dew, or a Vault for snack. This helps a lot. Caffeine has an adverse reaction on ADHD patients. On someone without it, it hypes them up. (just like the meds would). But this will counter-react with ADHD (just like the meds do), and cause him to calm down. Strattera is the only drug on the market that does not have amphetamine in it. Which is what is concerning about the other drugs. But it is expensive ($130) a month. I do not know if there is a generic, but that would be something to google. Also, have you tried looking into government mandated programs? I don't know where you live, but you could check into Medicaid or All Kids Insurance. All you have to do is go to your local Department of Human Resources, or look on the net. Good luck, because Lord knows, I've been through what you are going through. And now is the time to deal with it, because they won't even put children on the meds until they start school. You don't want his education to suffer."

Hesperia replied: "I have a 7 year old brother with ADHD and he is not medicated. He has put himself and others very close to dangers way (I'm sure you can agree). My mother is having issues with her health, finances and my brothers (I live in another country). My advise is do as much research as possible on the subject. Continue to seek out knowledge about handling ADHD, as it sounds like you'd prefer to deal with it naturally (as hard as it is). We look at my brother as a difficult child, and not a child with ADHD. This makes it easier to handle for everyone, and makes him feel less like he is 'different'. They thought I had ADD as a child, when really I just didnt care for school, forcing drugs on me etc. Don't give in unless you've had 2 doctors confirm ADHD (which cannot happen until at least the age of 7). Find the 'problem' that is most dangerous and difficult for the teachers and you to handle and offer as much support for it as can be. For my brother it is sitting still and holding still. He is allowed not to sit down while eating, he can walk around the house (jump) as long as he finishes his meal. As you know, proper diet and ADHD go hand in hand. My mother tried as hard as possible never to say 'hold still' because he simple CANNOT. His body wont let me, and he says things like "mama, I want to for you, but my body doesn't let me". Poor thing. I've spent a great deal of time working with him (I'm 21) and found we need to ingore and let alot of things go, and be VERY firm with others. Dinner is fine, wiggling is FINE, violence is NOT. My mother put him into loads of activities over the summer to keep him busy, soccer, painting and drumming. He is very very active, and loves being artistic. He is a very gifted child, but is VERY difficult. Make strong, firm house rules. And get the whole family to follow them. Have negative outcomes for breaking them, and positive outcomes for keeping to them. Don't over do it on the rules, just keep it to ones that needs to respected and maintained for safety and wellbeing. This is going to be hard, I wont lie. Everyday I spend with my brother is a battle, but we have ALOT of fun too. I find the more strict I am with him, the better he behaves. My fiancee always says lighten up on him, because he knows I am a very gentle person, but for my brother need craves and needs this structure (my mother doesn't offer it to him). I always allow him room to move, time to goof off, and encourage laughter (even if it is for saying poopoo over and over). I hope this gives you some insight on my 7 year old brother with ADHD, he was held back 1 year in school, he repeated grade 1, and is now doing MUCH better. He was born in Dec so he was just at the end cut off anyways, so now he is the biggest (he was always tall) and keeping up well and exceeding others in some places which is great for his low selfesteem. Best wishes"

SoBelle replied: "I don't know if you are in the states or not but am going to reply as if you are. There is your State Mental Health facilities that you can go to and some will only charge on a sliding scale ...means charges are based on your income ..so this would be very low for you. Also, there is medicaid for disabilities that you can get him signed up on and it will help pay for 5 medicines each month for only a $3.00 copay per prescription so you need to sign him up for this....as soon as you get him Dx'd IF he does in fact have ADHD. Then he also would qualify for a sum by check each month to help in his medical expenses. Medicaid is for ones with true disabilities and if he does have this then you are entitled to it. I work for a doctor and we treat ones on Medicaid no different than any other patient so do not be afraid to apply for it. Your tax dollars paid into this fund. There are ones that abuse the program, but he sounds like he truly needs help, as well as you with expenses. My nephew's son was just like that..he was even kicked out of vacation Bible school!! and is only on 1 medicine for his and he is like a different child! msg me if you need any more suggestions and Good Luck, will think of you both"

cathy replied: "you might try an over the counter Vitaum B pill . It help my best friend with her daughter. She had no medical. There are also some foods that have natural sugar in them, did you know that.? You might also sign him up for an after school program. Sort of wear him out at the end of the day."

Annie replied: "Contact the state insurance plan...all states must have one for minors without access to other insurance. Be aggressive and find out what is causing the delay..it could be something as simple as an error in spelling on the form trigerring the scanner system. Once your son has coverage, you should be able to get him seen and if they feel meds may be the route to try, they should also be covered at a greatly reduced rate. Not all drugs (especially newer one or ones used to treat kids) are available in generic versions, something I am all too familiar with. Again, the state insurance should be able to help. The next step is to contact the school and request he be evaluated for an IEP. An IEP will allow your child to recieve extra support and services through the school if he is found to have needs above and beyond what is considered average. He would be considered a special ed student..something many parents would rather give up services over rather than have thier child "labeled". Believe me when I say, take the label. The formal diagnosis and labeling of ADHD can only help your child. The school will have to come up with a behavioral intervention plan tailored to his needs...the expulsions will stop or be dramatically decreased. He may even get the help of a one on one aide to keep him focused in the class as well as sessions with the school psychologist to address his behaviors and feelings about himself. The label can also help you get help at home..visits from behavioral specialists to help figure out how to address issues at home, qualifying for respite care and other things. Finally, look for a mental health center that runs support programs for kids with ADHD/ADD. This will help you realize you are far from alone in this challange and parents tend to be the best resouice for getting information on specialists, programs, the schools and just living day to day. You are going to have to be the one to advocate for your son. it is a lot of hard work and is often very frustrating, but in the end you will get what you both need. Good luck."

Digital Storme replied: "Here are two outstanding reference articles. Read and take action Good Luck!"

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